WM-F10 "clicks". Has anyone found a fix for the cracked gear? (2025)

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #1

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

I have a Sony Walkman, WM-F10, similar to WM-10 only has FM radio. Pretty neat little unit, but it "clicks" on tape play. The reason is a crack in the plastic gear on the takeup spindle. Has anyone managed to repair this? I'm looking for ideas. I have the reel table pulled out, which was a feat in itself. See the pictures. Thanks for any ideas.

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  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #2

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simonmp

Serious Tapehead

Donor deck is probably your only option but maybe someone else here will chime in with other options!

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #3

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

I was thinking about epoxy or super glue and baking soda or perhaps "blue stuff and green stuff", used for making miniature models or copies of, green stuff is basically epoxy, blue stuff for making molds.

I worked in a real time duplication house up in Vermont where we had 250 Revox B-215s, so I know them very well. I wish I had kept some of them when they closed the doors.

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #4

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

A donor machine is obviously an option if you can find one, but I know the crack is a common issue and is most likely what kills these players. The nylon is formed around metal and the nylon shrinks over time, but the metal does not, so a crack forms. I actually have 3 of these walkmans, 2 have the broken gear. They would all be fully functional if not for the crack in the takeup spindle. The spindle is also the takeup torque regulator clutch, which complicates things a bit.

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #5

For now the only solution is a donor hub. I can't think of any other solution that will be strong enough to last (like adding a section of teeth from another broken hub)

Recreating these thin WM-10/100/501 type gears is on my list of things to try.
Currently I am working on recreating a clutch ring gear for the Panasonic RX-S40/41 (The only direct drive walkmans!)

For the WM-10/100/501 type gears it's going to be particularly challenging as the outer ring gear is probably too thin and fragile to be resin printed alone (The original is molded over the metal disc). So it will likely have to be a recreation of the whole hub. Which means it will not look as good as the original.

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #6

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

For those following this thread, the takeup and supply reels are different. I did look into using a supply hub from another unit in place of the takeup. The takeup reel/hub/spindle what ever you want to call it, is not just a gear, it is also the takeup clutch, it is what sets the takeup torque. The torque should typically be in the range of 45 to 65 gm/cm, that is the Philips spec for compact cassette. Philips spec is 55 gm/cm plus or minus 10. Sony typically runs takeup torque on the walkman players to around 30 gm/cm to save on battery life. So, it looks like I got some dead WM-F10 players here. Or, just ones that sound good except for the click. :)

  • Sep 14, 2023
  • #7

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

I will keep my WM-F10s here in case of a solution. :)

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #8

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simonmp

Serious Tapehead

Thinking about it Marian might be interested in producing a replacement gear for this if there's enough demand I guess! Perhaps you should get in touch with him from his website fixyouraudio.

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #9

fflynn

Serious Tapehead

Thanks. Yes, I did check with "fixyouraudio.com" about it. His response...

"unfortunately, you are right :( There is no solution for this crack. This part is very difficult and expensive to produce in small amounts.

Kind regards,

Marian"

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #10

MagneticBlood

Serious Tapehead

Panasonic RX s 40 have already a very good replacement.
About Wm10, cannot be fixed, that is sure. This, as the missing teeth is not the problem, but the not equal space between teeth. That cannot be solved.
Cheers
Sergiu

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #11

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odgcwrtw

Serious Tapehead

@Sergiu Do you know where to buy the RX-S40 gear? I searched and cannot seem to find an existing reproduction.

I did a quick mockup of the ring section of the WM-101 (I don't have any broken WM-10 gears lying around right now). I do not think this ring section alone is printable on resin printers, it is way too fragile.

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #12

MagneticBlood

Serious Tapehead

I've got RX S40 replacement from a Taiwan friend, he got from China few. Very well made, plastic injected. We cannot do that, never... about the WM10 ring, cannot be printed, that is sure. Just injected, but main problem is fixing perfectly and removing old one for unprepared average Joe.
Cheers
Sergiu

  • Sep 15, 2023
  • #13

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odgcwrtw

Serious Tapehead

I'll hit you up on that if my attempt fails. Would you happen to know a source for these Sharp/Kenwood clutch gears too?

My printed versions have held up well so far but I would prefer a proper POM molded one for something this small.

  • Sep 16, 2023
  • #14

Patrick S

Collector of high-quality Yugoslavian goods.

Is it possible to do 3D printing on it? Perhaps that can fix the issue, but I don't know if it is possible to disassemble the take-up spindle.

  • Sep 16, 2023
  • #15

MagneticBlood

Serious Tapehead

Not possible to 3d print, no printer can replicate this. Dismantle is much easier job than getting another gear, are rare ( extremely)
Cheers
Sergiu

  • Sep 16, 2023
  • #16

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odgcwrtw

Serious Tapehead

Made good progress on my S40 gear today, and improved the print quality. I think I'm one iteration away.

Since I had space on the build plate, I also gave printing the WM-101 ring a try. It actually survived the process (getting it off the plate) and fits well in the X-Y axis, but the Z axis (height) tolerances need work. The lip that goes under the gear also did not print properly. It gives me some hope that this might be possible.

  • Sep 16, 2023
  • #17

MagneticBlood

Serious Tapehead

You are an artist! Good work! Hope material is not very fragile, some are.
Keep us updated, please
Cheers
Sergiu

  • Sep 16, 2023
  • #18

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odgcwrtw

Serious Tapehead

Resin I'm currently using for gears is Siraya Blu Nylon, which is a consumer grade "engineering" resin. There is a new version of this resin that has lower friction (Blu Nylon Mecha) that was released recently, but it is not available where I am yet. So far my experience with this resin has been excellent for gears of this module size and larger (0.3mm for most walkmans). However, the WM-10/101/501 ring gears are so thin that I still have my doubts that it is a lasting solution. A molded POM gear would be much better.

Here's something else I am working on, a battery cover for the WM-10 series. I've got a long way to go on this one, the tolerances I have on this first iteration is too tight, the latch has too much friction.

  • Sep 18, 2023
  • #19

duncandisorderly

tapehead- london/madrid

maybe use a 3D printed version of it as a mould to cast a replacement in something stronger?

has it just split open (like the DD centre gear) or is there a chunk missing?

  • Sep 18, 2023
  • #20

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Chinewalker

TapeHeads.Net Member

Would it be possible to photo etch a ring out of brass? Copper? Something like this:

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